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FACT FILE: Buying and selling
cars in France
This
is information would be out of date in the 2020s era
and there are disclaimers at the end
See
also: Driving
in France and Monaco
For
a French registered car to be driven legally on the
road, it will need a carte grise, insurance and
a vaild contrôle
technique.
The Carte Grise - Certificat d'immatriculation-
When
you own a French (registered) car you are obliged to
arrange for a new carte grise that registers
the vehicle in your name at your address at the préfecture.
This procedure must be completed within 15 days
of the sale. The price of the carte grise depends on
the size of the engine.
Registration
of a new car -The dealer from whom you bought the
car from, should arrange the issue of a new carte grise.
Registration
of a second hand / used car - (Voiture d'occasion) If
you purchase a used car from a dealer, they should issue
you with a carte grise. If you purchased it privately
then the following procedure applies: You must go to
the préfecture or sous-préfecture with the following
documents.
- Cancelled
carte grise that came with the car (don't purchase
one without this- it could be a stolen vehicle!)
- Certificat
de vente - sales certificate that was given to you
by the seller.
- photocopy
of your passport.
- Proof
of address of residency - electricty - phone bill
etc
- Certificat
de situation - available from the préfecture, this
ensures that the car has no outstanding legal payments
with it.
Contrôle Technique - A
car over three years old must have a
contrôle technique.This is to check that the card is
road worthy. It must be completed every two years at
an authorised garage. Check that your garage can carry
out the contre-visite (the second visit after
essential repairs have been carried out) is free. When
your car passes the contrôle technique you are given
a macaron - a sticker that is displayed on your
windscreen. If you are planning to sell your car you
must have a contrôle technique completed within
6 months of the sale.
Changes
to French registration plates from 2009 - Black on White
registration plates on French cars from 2009.
From
the 15th April 2009 the department number will no longer
be on the French registration plate. The registration
plates will no longer be black on white at the front
and black on yellow at the rear as in the UK, but black
on white on the front and rear as in Portugal, Ireland,
Spain, Italy, Switzerland, Germany, Poland and many
other European countries.
From
the 15th April 2009 the département number will no longer
be on the French registration plate. The registration
plates will no longer be black on white at the front
and black on yellow at the rear as in the UK, but black
on white on the front and rear as in Portugal, Ireland,
Spain, Italy, Switzerland, Germany, Poland and many
other European countries.
They
are made up of two letters, three numbers and two letters
these are separated by hyphens(e.g. DE-354-FG) and will
be allocated to a vehicle for life unlike presently
if the owner moves from département to département.
The new plates do not contain any element that identifies
where the car owner lives.The Government claimed that
this would facilitate police dealing with stolen or
suspect vehicles. There was opposition from the suppression
of department numbers (75,62,48,06 etc) on the registration
plates and there was a Government climbdown. A car owner
may add the official logo of their a French département
to the their new style plate together with the département
number below it on the right hand side of the number
plate. This does not have to be the département where
the owner lives.
Second
hand cars: (voiture d'occasion) The new regulations
apply to second hand cars from the 15th June 2009 will
get these as well when la carte gris (registration document)
is updated with a new address or owner.
If
you are moving to France from another EU country you
can keep your old British, Irish, German registration
plates, but you must display where relevant Contrôle
Technique. However if you are caught by a speed
camera, don't think your foreign plates will help you.According
to Transport Minister Dominique Bussereau the British
are the worst followed by the Germans. Drivers will
be tracked down to their French home address or via
the home country of the registration plate.
N.B.
This information should not be relied on for accuracy
and is presented here without the responsibility of
jml Property Service and the website it is being displayed
at. ©jml property Services 07-05
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REGISTERING
A "FOREIGN" CAR IN FRANCE
Article
by Lynne Peacock who moved to France and she and her
husband took their two UK registerd vehicles with them
- A Citroen AX and a Fiat Camper Van. Here is her story
taken from her website www.gagnac-sur-cere.com
We
imported two vehicles when we moved to France last September:
my trusty 'shopping basket' 1996 Citroen AX, and our
elderly but very cherished camper van in which we have
travelled many happy miles.
The
Citroen
The
Citroen was fairly straightforward, if you forget about
the waiting around for the various bits of paper to
come back from DRIRE and the prefecture. DRIRE very
kindly offered to give me an attestation de conformité,
which cars sold before 1997 don't have, but the form
I had to fill in, 'demande d'identification d'une voiture
particulaire importée neuve ou usagée', involved me
discovering parts of my car and service manual I never
knew existed.
Yes,
yes, I know - typical female! But on that day I had
had an altercation with my dear husband (DH), so was
determined not to ask for help and crawled around under
the bonnet looking for a small metal plate that, so
my form said, carried vital information. The cost of
the attestation was €67.38 which seemed quite reasonable
- but that was only the start!
As
the car was over four years old, it needed a controle
technique. But before it could have that I had to replace
the headlamps. This is where the costs began to rise.
The local Citroen garage was very helpful and fitted
them the day I wandered in to ask about a rendezvous.
However, the mechanic was concerned that I seemed to
have a missed a service.
Ignoring
mutters from husband about forgetful women, I booked
in for the next day and - as I had read a leaflet while
I was waiting for the headlamps and knew I could have
a free pre-controle technique check - I asked for that
to be done at the same time. After shelling out €224.08
for headlamps and €72.48 for the service, I felt able
to go and book the controle technique. I thoroughly
recommend the DEKRA operation at St Cere - charming
chaps and I got a free umbrella! Another €55.50 though!
Now
it was just a case of getting a photocopy of my passport
(25 cents) and finding the original bill of sale which,
amazingly, I had kept. Not from any kind of sensible
system, so much as that I used to stuff everything into
my desk and hadn't thrown it away. Thanks to my much
more organised DH we had sent off our VO5 documents
to Swansea before leaving the UK and I therefore had
my certificate of permanent export. I copied it, twice
(50 cents) in case it got lost in the post.
How
Many Chevaux?
Despite
having yet another form to fill in just to ask for the
re-registering to be done which I've forgotten the name
of (and it duplicated almost everything on the attestation,),
I still needed to know how much it would cost me to
actually register. I rang the prefecture in Cahors and
was told €27.50 for 'un cheval'. We decided the AX must
be 'un cheval'. (Wrong!) The documents went off with
an accuse de reception, €4.50, just to make sure it
got there.
Then
began the saga of the incorrect cheques. First everything
came back, with a note that I should have paid €110
as it is €27.50 per cheval and my car was four chevaux.
I still have not managed to work out why exactly. Also,
the price was due to go up in February 2005 but no decision
had been made exactly when.
It
was still January, so I bunged the whole lot off again
with a cheque for €110 and €4.50 for the accuse - and
it came back to say it had gone up to €120!
That's
when my size six went down hard! Off to the prefecture
again, with me feeling that by now I had shares in La
Poste, but finally, on Saturday 26 February 2005, my
carte grise arrived.
There
then followed a quick dash to our local Auto Leclerc
for my new plaques but - dommage - they were out of
film and I had to wait. A week later they were still
out. Desperate to parade my new French number plates,
I asked for the nearest garage who could do them for
me and they sent me to another place nearby.
So,
€28.50 for three plaques, (we have a remorque), €5 for
fitting them and finally I could blend in with all the
other French traffic on the road.
Cost?
€588.81 or about £418 and worth every penny.
The
Citroen garage mechanic had a grumpy sidekick who said
I should drive a French car in France (ie: left-hand
drive) but I'm used to my car and in a world where everything
in our lives is new the comfort of driving the car I
know is immeasurable.
The
Camper
Meanwhile,
on the camper front we are still waiting. It will be
four weeks come next Tuesday. The process so far has
been much the same as for the car but with one major
exception.
We
wrote to Fiat for the attestation as the service des
mines couldn't find our camper on their list - an Eldiss
Autoquest on a Fiat Ducatto chassis. (see how technical
I can be when necessary?). We changed the headlamps
with our new best friends at the Citroen garage who
had ordered them for us and passed the controle technique
at St Cere, where we received our second free umbrella.
The
major difference is that we had to have the camper inspected
by the bureau veritas. The service des mines very helpfully
gave us two addresses but both were a long way off,
and one was even in another department. However, for
an increased fee, the chap would come to us. So that's
what we opted for.
The
Inspection
One
very cold morning in January he finally arrived in his
van, having rung me from the other end of the commune
as he had got lost. We stood around nervously as he
poked around under the bonnet and the bunks. His task,
we had been told, was to check out the electrics and
gas to make sure they were safe and serviceable. The
gas supply passed muster but he was unhappy that there
was no label on the inside of the gas locker door saying
'butane'. This, despite there being a large sign on
the OUTSIDE of the same door saying LPG plus a picture
of a gas canister...
He
fiddled with the wire from the camper battery (as opposed
to the battery for the engine) and insisted we fix an
inline fuse. My DH pointed out the existing fuse tucked
into a corner, but to no avail.
At
this point I tried to pour a little oil on the situation.
The DH may not speak much French but his face spoke
volumes. Monsieur Veritas and I had a fervent exchange
about how important 'la securité' is. The DH relaxed
a bit.
Back
inside the camper we were told we must change all the
sockets for French sockets. Luckily I was the only one
who heard and understood the DH's muttered aside that
at least the English sockets were earthed!
Then
came the piece de resistance for our inspector. After
entering and exiting our shower/toilet several times
he turned to us both and heaving a sigh told me 'Problem,
Madame, grand problem!'.
We
waited for him to explain. Our toilet window was apparently
too small to evacuate out of in the case of our fire
creating an 'incendie'. The said fire is to the left
of the toilet door and the door opens to the right,
therefore to exit the shower/toilet you would have to
pass in front of the fire and therefore the conflagration!
'Grand problem'!
We
all trooped outside and he showed us how we could enlarge
the window. I could see my husband was at this point
considering abandoning the camper to its fate. Enlarging
the window would be quite a job and we also had a ladder
across it. Back inside we all looked at the way the
door was hung and our chap suggested that rehanging
the door would satisfy regulations. I asked if they
had changed the regulations re toilet doors in the EU
recently but he replied that it had always been thus.
I knew our camper was old but not that old!
Then
we had our biggest surprise. Filling out his form and
asking us for a cheque, Monsieur Veritas announced that
as soon as we let him know we had made the changes he
would forward our document to us for the prefecture.
My husband asked if he wanted photos to prove we had
changed things. Monsieur looked bemused at the idea
and replied that a letter would do.
He
declined a coffee and wished us good day and drove off,
we assume, to worry some other poor campers.
Exhausted,
we set off to the Brico to find the various bits and
pieces. That afternoon my DH changed everything, including
the door (what a nuisance it is now!) and took photos
to prove he had done the work as he is a man who likes
to be seen to be doing things properly. In a couple
of weeks the document arrived. A cool €209.62 worth
of proof that the camper is fit for the road.
The
Wait
And
so we wait... True to form we've sent it off the requisite
three times and paid the accuse each time. The first
return was because my husband forgot his proof of identity,
the second time because the cheque was wrong (déjà vue!).
But at least as the camper is over 10 years old we only
have to pay €110 despite it being a 10 cheval.
Three
weeks and counting. Maybe it will arrive tomorrow. But
I'm not holding my breath...
(We
are advised that the second car was finally imported
-jml Property Services March 2007)
Article:
Copyright © Lynne Peacock 2005 - Please note: This article
must not be published on any website without the written
consent of the writer Lynne Peacock
Transfering
ownership of a French registerd car - August 2013
In
the early part of the summer I raised a topic on
The
Riviera Reporter Forum -
I will shortly be having to transfer the ownership a
French registered car that currently has the old style
white and yellow 06 number plates. Can anyone help with
advice as to where to go to do this or can you download
forms in line as well. I presume the car will then have
to have new style number plates. Do you have to go to
a specialist garage to have these fitted. Any help please.
Many thanks
The
great thing about this forum, is that I have always
had useful replies to the issues raised. This time Kathy
and Ants replied "When the new owner registers
the car at the prefecture they take the registration
doc to a place that does plates and they do them. Nothing
complicated about it. Was about 30 euros. If it is at
Grasse Prefecture the number plate place is opposite.
Done in minutes."
As
kathy says, the plates can be made and installed almost
anywhere, even in some keymaking places near supermarkets.
All they need is the registration document. As for changing
ownership:
If you don't speak French it's probably best to get
help from a friend or neighbour, also if you are doing
it on line or by post. It's pretty straight forward
(rare in France) -
all you need at the motor vehicles registration office
at the prefecture are the standard docs:
- the old registration document (commonly called "carte
grise")
-
a "controle technique" (MOT) less that 6 months old
-
Proof of identity (passport or other) - proof of address
called "Justificatif de domicile" (electricity bill
will do)
-statement that there are no
outstanding debts on the car called "certificat de non-gage"
or "Certificat de situation administrative" (available
on line vosdroits.service-public.fr/particuliers/R1270.xhtml)
- declaration of sale called "déclaration
de cession" (Formulaire cerfa n°13754*02 available on
line ) www.formulaires.modernisation.gouv.fr/gf/cerfa_13754_02.do?jeton=paSbwQE-WgcqAAE-Z0JS_2yL
In the case that the transfer
of ownership is made following the death of the previous
owner rather than sale or free donation, you will need
a document from the notary handling the succession stating
that you are the legal inheritor of the vehicle.
-
Re registration request called "demande de certificat
d'immatriculation" (Formulaire cerfa n°13750*03 available
on line )
www.formulaires.modernisation.gouv.fr/gf/showFormulaireSignaletiqueConsulter.do?numCerfa=13750*03
-
Payment for the re-registration of an amount that which
varies by department.
If
you are applying by post you can send a cheque. If you
are applying on line you can pay by card. If you are
applying in person you can do either. The amount depends
on the fiscal HP ("Puissance fiscale") of the car and
the department number.
You
can make the calculation on line here : www.carte-grise.org/cout_carte_grise.htm
An
easier way is just to hire one of those relocation assistance
people to do it for you but they take a fee.
In
August I went into the Sous Prefecture in Grasse.The
car was being transferred following a death and the
appropriate documentation was therefore brought.Fortunately
we had our neice with us to assist with the language.
Process took well over an hour with booking in at reception,
getting a number and waiting to be called then proceeding
downstairs to pay. Registration document arrived in
the post a couple of days later, however it misses the
most important part of the address.
A
useful shop acroos the road makes up the new style number
plates and quickly fitted for a few Euros.Quite a contrast
to doing the same thing in England whereby you post
off everything to the DVLC in Swansea and not have to
physically to go somewhere other than the post box.
If the French introduced a DVLC there would probably
be a lot of people out of work throughout the country
or re employed on other work.
Another
Forum contributor has made the following comment - "You'll
just have to get used to the fact that France is far
too bureaucratic and there are far more public workers
than necessary. But it is (or "was" before Mr Hollande
took over) slowly getting better and in some rare cases
is even easier than the UK. For instance you only have
to pass the MOT every 2 years instead of every year
like in the UK. There is no road tax in France either
so that is one less bureaucratic hassle."
Is
it good though not having an MOT equivalent every year?
A car could become unroadworthy 9 months after the test.
In theory it can still be driven for a further fifteen.
Same rules apply with the
Republic of Ireland and the National Car Test NCT.
Copyright
© Philip Suter September 2013
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